dparrott Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) OK, yes it's the same content, but the difference is Ice-T and NWA are more than just their lyrical content, they also have incredible mic skills, where as 50 doesn't. There's no way 50 could spit like Ice-T does on "New Jack Hustler", "Lethal Weapon", or "Hit The Deck", or many NWA songs, or have their energy. Him and many rappers today sound like they're half asleep and I hate that. Plus Ice-T did more than make "I'm a gangsta" songs, he also described the downsides of that lifestyle. Edited November 3, 2006 by dparrott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnazz Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 "They changed hiphop in a major way"..Yeah thanks a lot for that... I think The Godfather is a good movie. N.W.A. didnt make good hip hop. In fact, I cant say they made hip hop at all. Same thing with Ice-T and 50 Cent. I think you probably would have thought the same thing if they came out as late as 50 did. Its the same ****. Gangsta gangsta gangsta, I got a gun in my wardrobe, a hoe in my closet and drugs in my pocket. Sometimes they blend it with some political words, but crap doesnt taste good even if you add sugar. There's no difference between The Godfather and NWA's music. N.W.A.'s music is telling violent stories, stories of power, stories of an outlaw life, the same thing that The Godfather and Scarface do. Dre had great, original beats for N.W.A. (And Tupac later on) and Ice Cube had (and still has) great flow and witty word play. It's good hip-hop with violent themes, and at the time it was very original. 50, on the other hand, comes off, to me at least, as a poor imitation of that original music. His flow is horrid and his lyrical skill (ignoring content) leaves much to be desired. He doesn't tell stories, he spits lines. You're right, it is now Gangsta gangsta gangsta. But the problem isn't that there's gangsta music, it's that there's nothing but gangsta music. Some is entertaining, but now it's to the point where it's repetitive and predictable. When N.W.A. hit, it was neither boring nor repetitive, it was original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakalicous Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) Lerk.. You have the right to say your opinion and everything man, but those statements are kind off foolish.. N.W.A arent legends? Dre is over 40 and runs Hip-Hop.. Everybody dreams to spit over some Dre ****.. You know it.. Ice Cube, ever heard No Vaseline? I love that song man.. Can you really say he does'nt have skills? Just dont say anything man.. Enough hating for now.. but do your thing.. except the hating part:) Peace.. Edited November 3, 2006 by Pakalicous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Well, in some way Lerkot's right. Just one thing.. 50 Cent just inst a good rapper (caus of hiw flow and his lyrical ability). Ice Cube for example is a good one. I realy dont give a damn about what a Mc talks, as long as he does it in a dope way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Well life isn't sugar coated Lerkot, gangsta rap potrays the way life really is, Ice-T is the definition of true gangsta rap, he puts reality into his raps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerkot Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 "They changed hiphop in a major way"..Yeah thanks a lot for that... I think The Godfather is a good movie. N.W.A. didnt make good hip hop. In fact, I cant say they made hip hop at all. Same thing with Ice-T and 50 Cent. I think you probably would have thought the same thing if they came out as late as 50 did. Its the same ****. Gangsta gangsta gangsta, I got a gun in my wardrobe, a hoe in my closet and drugs in my pocket. Sometimes they blend it with some political words, but crap doesnt taste good even if you add sugar. There's no difference between The Godfather and NWA's music. N.W.A.'s music is telling violent stories, stories of power, stories of an outlaw life, the same thing that The Godfather and Scarface do. Dre had great, original beats for N.W.A. (And Tupac later on) and Ice Cube had (and still has) great flow and witty word play. It's good hip-hop with violent themes, and at the time it was very original. 50, on the other hand, comes off, to me at least, as a poor imitation of that original music. His flow is horrid and his lyrical skill (ignoring content) leaves much to be desired. He doesn't tell stories, he spits lines. You're right, it is now Gangsta gangsta gangsta. But the problem isn't that there's gangsta music, it's that there's nothing but gangsta music. Some is entertaining, but now it's to the point where it's repetitive and predictable. When N.W.A. hit, it was neither boring nor repetitive, it was original. Well, yes there is difference. There's a difference between movies and music, and between stories and stories. I dont like storytelling - especially not when it isnt really storytelling, it is the rapper trying to fool you that he is living a life he really isnt living. Like 50 Cent, Ice-T and the NWA dudes are doing. I dont really care about beats and flow - and if I did, it wouldnt help NWA. But sure, it might have been original, though I cant really get what the original thing would be really... And original doesnt automatically mean good. Well life isn't sugar coated Lerkot, gangsta rap potrays the way life really is, Ice-T is the definition of true gangsta rap, he puts reality into his raps Yeah okey you go ahead and live in your little dream world where gangsta rappers are telling the truth while I continue live in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Willie Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Lerk, the hating is getting boring.... seriously! I cant remember the last time you said anything positive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Well, yes there is difference. There's a difference between movies and music, and between stories and stories. I dont like storytelling - Uh why do like Slick Rick then if you don't like storytellin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakalicous Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Good Point Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigie Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Its just about music taste, i gave my opinion, Ice-T aint a favorite for me, but i respect wat he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerkot Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Well, yes there is difference. There's a difference between movies and music, and between stories and stories. I dont like storytelling - Uh why do like Slick Rick then if you don't like storytellin'? Because I like his humour and voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakalicous Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Fair enough.. but what I dont understand is how you cant like beats and flows? Hip hop is about beats and flows.. Just wondering.. You cant make a good song without a good beat.. really.. And flow is most importent for rappers... everyone has a diffrent flow.. Like FP.. Great flow might I add.. So truthfully man.. you dont make sence at all.. Dont you like Outkast to? Big Boi got the illest flows.. who can forget ms.Jackson.. Peace... Edited November 4, 2006 by Pakalicous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerkot Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 The content of the lyrics is the most important part of hiphop, at least in my opinion. Outkast got that, so does Will. If I was at all interested in flow, I wouldnt listen to JJFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnazz Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 How is it that you only care about lyrical content but you don't like story telling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 (AJ ignoring all that's been said) I haven't heard Ice-T's new album...but i definitly want it. I'm not against Ice-T doing an R-N-B influenced track or 2. After all, he's been doing this forever and Ice-T's life is totally different...leading 2 different music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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