Are we ruining Hiphop?

[Hero1]

Man, we're gettin' idealistic up in here! :sipread: :pony:

Yeah I wish i believed what Coz predicts would eventuate :shrug:

[Cozmo D]

Man, we're gettin' idealistic up in here! :sipread: :pony:

Yeah I wish i believed what Coz predicts would eventuate :shrug:

Beatstreet here in Brooklyn closed last month. Music Factory is going under now. Tower is gone. The fat cats are losing money.

Here's an article I got from IODA this week.

http://www.metrics2.com/blog/2006/11/22/di...on_by_2010.html

As the digital music market explodes, the physical distributed music (music CDs) will decline from $27.3 billion in 2005 to $$19.6 billion by 2010.

Digital music accounted for some 12% of the $33 billion recorded music market in 2006 and is expected to take a commanding 40% share of the industry by 2010.

Believe it. :smart:

[Hero1]

Oh I believe digital music will take over...but is radio gonna change..is music video channels like mtv gonna change.. are record labels gonna change? are people gonna start buying quality music? Will good artists be commercially successful again?

[Pakalicous]

Yes

[bigted]

Well SonyBMG is starting to dismantle now, I found this over on allhiphop.com today, the music industry is gonna start to crumble, now really to answer what Tim asked, I believe that with all this technology that TV and Radio are becoming irrelevant, people could just basically choose what they want to listen to now, if they don't like what MTV and radio plays they don't have to listen, it ain't like the old days where TV and Radio is the only way you could discover music anymore, everybody could go on the computer and choose what they want to listen to instead of watching TV or turn on the radio, videos are watched on YouTube, music is listened to on ITunes/online radio stations where you could choose your own preference more than people watching MTV or listening to the radio, that's becoming the past now, if MTV and radio want higher ratings after awhile they have to have better programming, anyway here's the article:

Sony Urban To Be Dismantled

By Roman Wolfe

Date: 11/27/2006 9:30 am

According to reports, SonyBMG is planning to dismantle it's Sony Urban Music division, with layoffs at the label coming just before the holiday season.

Layoffs at the label are scheduled to start some time this week. According to the New York Post some of Sony Urban's 70 employees will be reassigned to other labels within SonyBMG starting on or around December 1.

The conglomerate has an interest in a number of ventures, including Arista Records, Epic Records, Columbia Records, J Records, RCA Records, RCA Records and others.

Artists on Sony Urban, which include DMX, Three Six Mafia, Beyonce, Bow Wow, Omarion, John Legend, Amerie and others, will be reassigned to the Epic and Columbia labels.

Layoffs at SonyBMG started last week in the classical music division.

Edited November 27, 2006 by bigted

[Cozmo D]

Oh I believe digital music will take over...but is radio gonna change..is music video channels like mtv gonna change.. are record labels gonna change? are people gonna start buying quality music? Will good artists be commercially successful again?

Yes to all but the last question. The days of what we now think of as commercially successful are numbered. There will probably always be mega-stars of some sort, though the route to mega-stardom will likely change. However, the NEW form of commercial success will be better, because artists will have much more direct control over their craft and it's marketing and profits. The days when going gold is an immense achievement are returning, and 100,000 sales will be thought of as highly successful. The key to remember, is that an artist on a major is lucky to clear 50 cents per CD. As an independent artist with control of his masters he clears at least 10X as much. In fact, on iTunes alone he would make more per single track download than he would make on a major for the entire CD. The math spells doom for the majors from every direction.

Here's a nice article on radio from the NY Times that is sure to make you smile.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/business...=rssnyt&emc=rss

Note this lovely tidbit:

Clear Channel Communications, the nation’s largest radio operator, is now considering selling some of its 1,200 stations in smaller markets after years of acquiring everything in sight, according to industry analysts. The Corporation">CBS Corporation did the same thing recently and now says it is looking at further station sales. The Walt Disney Company struck a deal this summer to get out of the radio business altogether, and in May, Susquehanna Broadcasting, the nation’s largest privately held radio group, was sold to another broadcaster.

:wiggle:

[bigted]

Oh I believe digital music will take over...but is radio gonna change..is music video channels like mtv gonna change.. are record labels gonna change? are people gonna start buying quality music? Will good artists be commercially successful again?

Yes to all but the last question. The days of what we now think of as commercially successful are numbered. There will probably always be mega-stars of some sort, though the route to mega-stardom will likely change. However, the NEW form of commercial success will be better, because artists will have much more direct control over their craft and it's marketing and profits. The days when going gold is an immense achievement are returning, and 100,000 sales will be thought of as highly successful. The key to remember, is that an artist on a major is lucky to clear 50 cents per CD.....

Yeah what's the point in buying every mainstream album if the artists only get a real small percentage anyway? Those rappers really rent cars in the videos, they ain't really that rich either, they're just frontin',lol, the only real ballers in rap are those like Will Smith, LL, Puffy, and Jay-Z but that's mostly from making money outside of their albums, although there are those out there like Jim Jones that're ballin'!! 'cause they're independent, now to get back to the main purpose of this thread, I think hip-hop will be ruined if nobody listens and just complains but as long as people listen to hip-hop it won't be ruined, that's the main essence of hip-hop is enjoying the quality, there is quality music out there, and no matter how people enjoy it as long as they listen that's the main thing and what it comes down to, people can't afford to buy every hot album out there at $15 a pop so if it's more convienent for them to download then god bless them, as long as they enjoy it as the main thing... At the end of the day the real artists care about what the peeps think about their albums but the money hungry rappers just look at the audience as numbers and don't care whether they like it or not so **** them and just support real artists...

Edited November 28, 2006 by bigted