JumpinJack AJ Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I know what u are saying...but let's be real. I'm expecting there 2 be some good trax w/ DJ Premier...but i expect some crappy stuff 2. If most of the trax are anything like "Bump This," this is a move for the worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Looks like LL needs more money. Yeah and that's why Will signs up to do 5 films instead of doing albums with Jazzy 'cause he needs more money too at least he doesnt care about album sales and money when it comes to somethin, which is all about himself, get what i'm saying? but just like i said, lets wait and see how LLs albums going to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Get over it people.. Do you know 50 cent or rest of the G-unit? Maybe LL likes 50.. Maybe he like's 50's music.. What do you guys have to do with it? It's his choice.. so bitching about him working with this or that wont stop him working with them.. You guys are using your energy the wrong way.. I'll wait for the album to drop before I judge it.. Peace. No i don't know them. But i know how they represent themselves in the public. i see all those 13 year old brain washed kids running around with their brand on. and i know their artistically skills and abilities, so logically i can only make up my opinion on these "facts" about their LL collab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Looks like LL needs more money. Yeah and that's why Will signs up to do 5 films instead of doing albums with Jazzy 'cause he needs more money too at least he doesnt care about album sales and money when it comes to somethin, which is all about himself, get what i'm saying? but just like i said, lets wait and see how LLs albums going to be... Will does care about record sales even though he said he don't, let's be real if "Lost and Found" sold 5 million he'd be working on another album right now, maybe turn down a couple film roles, but it only went gold so he's not releasing any albums and he's back to filming more often, if Will didn't care so much about record sales he'd spend 2 weeks with Jazzy soon and do an album for the real rap fans if he really thinks filming is a chick on the side, get what I'm saying? I think every artist cares about money and record sales a lil' bit, let's be real, there's nothing wrong with that to an extent as long as they work hard... btw "Bump This" is cool but LL could come stronger than that I agree AJ, he needs to dig deep and do some real aggressive stuff to let all these ignorant rap fans know that he's still a lyrical beast, the fans and critics been calling him out and saying that he's washed up lately, that's why he needs to be more aggressive with his lyrics, he needs to slow down on that ladies loving image, if LL's doing anything like his last few albums then maybe he should be the one taking time off to do more films, he'll probably end up making more money doing that anyway, I really hope he delivers here so he could shut up all the critics once again and all the fans will be back on his bandwagon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 By the way, I doubt thats the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) LL should sport a hoodie on the album cover and I think he still got love for the game, I don't think he's only in it for the money, he's in it for the love really, I think it hurts him to see his music getting criticised, that's why I think he's gonna put out a more aggressive album, he got his head to the streets and knows that he's being dissed for being soft so he needs to step up here, and I think Will sees that there's not much challenge in the rap game for him anymore, he got a lot of credability for "Lost and Found" so he's working on getting that Oscar award in filming, he puts his heart into whatever he does too, he wants to do credible things Edited November 26, 2006 by bigted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Looks like LL needs more money. Yeah and that's why Will signs up to do 5 films instead of doing albums with Jazzy 'cause he needs more money too at least he doesnt care about album sales and money when it comes to somethin, which is all about himself, get what i'm saying? but just like i said, lets wait and see how LLs albums going to be... Will does care about record sales even though he said he don't, let's be real if "Lost and Found" sold 5 million he'd be working on another album right now, maybe turn down a couple film roles, but it only went gold so he's not releasing any albums and he's back to filming more often, if Will didn't care so much about record sales he'd spend 2 weeks with Jazzy soon and do an album for the real rap fans if he really thinks filming is a chick on the side, get what I'm saying? I think every artist cares about money and record sales a lil' bit, let's be real, there's nothing wrong with that to an extent as long as they work hard... btw "Bump This" is cool but LL could come stronger than that I agree AJ, he needs to dig deep and do some real aggressive stuff to let all these ignorant rap fans know that he's still a lyrical beast, the fans and critics been calling him out and saying that he's washed up lately, that's why he needs to be more aggressive with his lyrics, he needs to slow down on that ladies loving image, if LL's doing anything like his last few albums then maybe he should be the one taking time off to do more films, he'll probably end up making more money doing that anyway, I really hope he delivers here so he could shut up all the critics once again and all the fans will be back on his bandwagon.... come on ted, dont start turning around things. now you wanna tell me that Will is lying? there could be thousands of reasons why he didnt make another album. i guess you saw the vid of his AMA appearance where he was totally speechless and shocked after winning that award. lets be real for real, he didnt even believe that he'd go so far with L&F. He sold more than 600k copies, which is a lot for nowadays. We know that and he surely does, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) Well you said that LL's just doing this for money 'cause he has G-Unit on his album, but how could that be when G-Unit albums are flopping now? LL's upset that his last album didn't sell as much as before but he's even more upset that his music is getting called soft, he knows he needs to be more aggressive on this album, having Dr. Dre and Premo producing is a good start really for him to be able to have the proper tracks to rip over, the G-Unit rhyming has been suspect lately but they always choose aggressive beats to rap over, I think that's why LL wants to have 50 executive produce it Edited November 26, 2006 by bigted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Well you said that LL's just doing this for money 'cause he has G-Unit on his album, but how could that be when G-Unit albums are flopping now? LL's upset that his last album didn't sell as much as before but he's even more upset that his music is getting called soft, he knows he needs to be more aggressive on this album, having Dr. Dre and Premo producing is a good start really for him to be able to have the proper tracks to rip over, the G-Unit rhyming has been suspect lately but they always choose aggressive beats to rap over, I think that's why LL wants to have 50 executive produce it did i say that? i just said that it looks like he needs more money (i never mentioned g-unit in that context). but its obvious that he's trying to make a commercial big banger album with all those artists. and you might be right saying that he needs some aggressive beats, but it could also be that he wants to make some club bangers and such sort of 50 records with a catchy hook and stuff like that. lets wait and see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Primo, Buckwild, Reakwon, Big Daddy Kane dont exactly look like makin' money to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Primo, Buckwild, Reakwon, Big Daddy Kane dont exactly look like makin' money to me. And what about Eminem, Andre, Dre, G-Unit and will.i.am? there are also more tracks we dont know. there are 11 featured artists on 7 songs we know so far, and you wanna tell me that this is anything else than a commercialized money making album? sorry but it sounds more like :blabla: what you're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) Primo, Buckwild, Reakwon, Big Daddy Kane dont exactly look like makin' money to me. Exactly, why'd LL put them on his album if he was only worrying about selling records? Honestly I think a lot of people are just gonna be turned off seeing G-Unit listed on a couple songs on the tracklist and they won't even give the album a listen, well **** them really, they'll be missing out on some great music, as long as LL delivers what does it matter who else is there? Was "Willenium" just a commercialised money making album? If this album is really just about catchy beats and hooks then it wouldn't be that much different LL's last few albums, that's what they were about really, they weren't classic LL albums.... I'm hopeful that this is more like LL's "G.O.A.T." album, there was a lot of guest appearances but it was an aggressive album Edited November 26, 2006 by bigted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Eeven if this about selling allot of records.. Whats so wrong about that? Why blame LL that he wants to reach allot of diffrent people? It's silly to say he wants to sell more caus of they money, caus LL is prolly one of the most loadet ones in the game allready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 There's nothing wrong with being commercial and having people buying your albums, as long as it's quality music who cares like I said before, LL's trying to bring unity to hip-hop here by bringing rappers together, that should be applauded, but I guess it seems people want to see rappers beef more with each other than unify, it's like how some people called Nas a sellout for signing to Jay-Z 'cause it seems that they want them to beef forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Tiger Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 (edited) What I know is this: I love quality hip hop. LL has got it. He's got flow and he's on point. G-Unit does not. lil' Wayne's presence on Hollywood Divorce is a great example of how I believe many of TS2's songs will turn out. LL will be on point and the craptacular rappers he's rolling with won't. They'll go off subject and rap about themselves, their money, whatever. It always happens. I came here this morning with a fresh mind... but I re-read the tracklist... ""G's" (Featuring G-unit & Lil Scrappy) (Produced by 50 cent)"... I said to myself "Oh, you know that's gonna be good." It's really depressing as an LL fan. Maybe I'll end up buying half the album on iTunes, but I'm sure I won't be getting the whole thing. It's like I said in the Will topic concerning his affiliation with 50. I think Will is a great rapper, but he is not my God. Same applies to LL. I can respect a man without accepting everything that he does as a stroke of brilliance on his part. God Blessa! Edited November 26, 2006 by Silver Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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